Hunger Symposium: Panel B Hunger and people's Conscience - Part Responses

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Hunger Symposium: Panel B Hunger and people's Conscience - Part Responses

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Bill, may we have your response, comments, critique?
 
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Cardinal Wright, dear brothers and sisters in Christ,
 
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I shall attempt to pick upon a point made by Father Hare
 
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toward the concluding section of his presentation, where
 
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He touched briefly on the fact that the question
 
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of the Eucharist cannot be separated
 
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from the fact of hunger.
 
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I shall attempt to accomplish what
 
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I thought Arthur Simon was going to do when he quoted
 
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from chapter 5 of his book, a book which I commend to you.
 
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And I would like to attempt to link all of this together
 
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with what Father Arrupe said this morning to the effect
 
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that we seem indeed to have the know-how to solve
 
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the problem of world food production,
 
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but seem to lack the will.
 
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The question of motivation then arousing our conscience as a consequence of realizing that bread, in the words of the American bishop's food plan, bread is a sacred trust.
 
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It is not, contrary to Secretary of Agriculture Butts,
 
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it is not another tool in our kit of diplomacy.
 
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To bring these scattered points together,
 
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then, I would attempt to offer for our joint reflection
 
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The linking, to me, the inextricable linking
 
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of the Eucharist with the literal feeding
 
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of the literally hungry.
 
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We sometimes forget how completely Jewish
 
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is the context of our Eucharistic faith
 
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and liturgical practice.
 
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From the point of view of salvation history,
 
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the Eucharist takes its beginning really not
 
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on the eve of Christ's passion.
 
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The Eucharist sinks its roots into an event
 
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that took place thousands of years
 
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before the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ.
 
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That event, of course, is the event of the exodus.
 
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when God broke again into human history
 
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and summoned forth a rabble of slaves
 
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with the divine design of turning them
 
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into a royal nation, a kingly people, whose God he would be.
 
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As you know, faithful Jews every year celebrated the fact and the significance of the Exodus
 
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through their celebration of their Passover, when God, through the leadership of a man
 
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who stuttered, led them from slavery to freedom,
 
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from death to life.
 
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And as the faithful Jews gathered
 
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to commemorate and celebrate that passing over each year,
 
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the one who presided at the Passover feast,
 
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usually the father, would take unleavened bread
 
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because their forebears had been commanded to take with them
 
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only unleavened bread.
 
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So hasty must be their flight.
 
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And the one presiding at the Passover meal,
 
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for centuries down to our own time,
 
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takes the unleavened bread, holds it up to the view
 
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of those celebrating the Passover meal,
 
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and says, this is the bread of affliction,
 
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which our fathers ate in the desert.
 
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Let all who are hungry come and eat.
 
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Let all who are in need share our Passover meal with us.
 
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It was in this completely Jewish context
 
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that Jesus instituted the Eucharist.
 
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With desire, he said to his friends, with desire,
 
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have I desired to share this Passover meal with you.
 
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Where in the words of St. Thomas,
 
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what he was to do at that meal, dat figoris terminum,
 
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put an end to the symbols of anticipation
 
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in the experience of the Jewish people.
 
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And while they were at supper, he took the bread,
 
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blessed it, broke, and said, this
 
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is the bread of affliction, which
 
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our fathers ate in the desert.
 
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Let all who are hungry come and eat.
 
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Let all who are in need share this Passover meal with us.
 
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This is the bread of affliction.
 
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This is my body, which will be given up for you.
 
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The early church, to a more clear degree
 
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than our recent generations, seemed
 
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to have kept an understanding of this linking of the Eucharist
 
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with the literal feeding of the literal hungry.
 
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The bread for the purposes of the Eucharist
 
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and later distribution of the unused portions
 
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was barley bread, the bread of the poor.
 
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Bread made from white sifted flours
 
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like those clothed in soft garments
 
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could be found in the houses of the rich.
 
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But for the early church, the unleavened bread
 
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of sacrifice and distribution was the unmilled bread
 
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of the poor.
 
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Although our manner of celebrating
 
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the liturgy of the Eucharist has been modified from century
 
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to century, obviously the central Eucharistic faith
 
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has remained the same.
 
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We believe that this is indeed his body, his blood.
 
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But through the eyes of faith, which
 
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enable us to see the living reality of the living
 
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word of the living God, we have not always so clearly discerned
 
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what we might call that other Christ, the Christ who
 
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identified himself so unmistakably
 
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and so ineradicably with the marginalized and brutalized
 
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of this earth, the hungry, the thirsty, the naked,
 
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the unjustly imprisoned.
 
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For us, who have heard for years now the grim statistics
 
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of how many hunger, of how many thirst,
 
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of how many are imprisoned, for us, the eyes of faith,
 
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Turn these from statistics to horrifying fact.
 
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We know who is hungry and where.
 
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We know who is thirsty and where, and in what numbers,
 
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and to what degree.
 
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We cannot then, with the eyes of faith,
 
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proclaim that we see him in the Eucharist,
 
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and at the same time dim our eyes of faith
 
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and turn our ears away from the other Christ who cannot be
 
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separated from his Eucharistic presence.
 
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That, I think, gives the stir.
 
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That is what applies the spur to our conscience
 
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as we attempt to move to whatever limited degree
 
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against the massive problem of hunger.
 
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The problem is massive, as we have been told again and again
 
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and again.
 
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But we are not powerless.
 
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And to think we are, to throw up our hands and say,
 
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I know it's terrible, but what can I do,
 
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is to take refuge in what Arthur Simon, in his recent book,
 
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has called the luxury of powerlessness.
 
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We can do things.
 
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We can take the kind of course of action
 
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already indicated here.
 
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We can take the kinds of action indicated
 
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in the tabloid brochure prepared by the committee
 
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for this international symposium.
 
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If you have not as yet received a copy, please try to get one.
 
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They seem readily available.
 
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There are things that we can do as Christian citizens
 
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of conscience, which makes in our time and in our place
 
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that much harsher and demanding the question
 
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We know that he asks in each reception of the Eucharist,
 
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I was hungry.
 
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As Father Hare said, most times people go home and wonder
 
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what's going to happen, and very often nothing happens.
 
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However, in this case, I think it's quite obvious
 
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that a great deal is taking place.
 
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Our Lord said, I feel sorry for these people.
 
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They have nothing to eat.
 
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I do not want to send them away hungry
 
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lest they collapse on the way.
 
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Christians, individuals, families, nations,
 
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and associations of nations must therefore
 
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face up to the fact that it is unthinkably immoral to permit
 
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people to go hungry.
 
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In recent years, there have been many statements concerning this,
 
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and it's not necessary here, I think,
 
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to do more than simply agree with it.
 
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In one territory, to set a particular stage
 
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where Catholic Relief Services is working,
 
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and unfortunately, it's common, it's
 
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not an isolated incident, there's
 
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a population of 45 million people,
 
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including 3 million unemployed and probably about 15 million
 
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underemployed.
 
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With 10,000 tons of food, we're giving work
 
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to 20,000 heads of families and feeding a total of 100,000
 
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people through them.
 
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An American Jesuit in that diocese
 
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described this CRS Food for Work project
 
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as one of the best things that ever happened to his diocese.
 
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But a truly gigantic effort still
 
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has to be cranked up because that's just
 
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scratching the surface.
 
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The World Food Congress, the World Food Conference,
 
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rather, in 1974 in Rome, approved a program
 
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calling for four things.
 
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Increased and rationalized food aid.
 
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A 10 million ton food bank.
 
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increased agricultural production,
 
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and food deficit countries.
 
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And of them all, the last is undoubtedly
 
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the most important, although all three are needed.
 
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36 member nations now, or 36 men,
 
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representing their 36 countries, now
 
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constitute a World Food Council, which
 
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monitors the implementation of the resolutions mentioned
 
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above or the recommendations of the World Food Conference.
 
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And it continually reassesses the world food situation,
 
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encourages action, and makes recommendations
 
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to other United Nations bodies, identifies
 
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problems as they arise, gaps in activities,
 
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time lags in performance, and measures progress
 
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towards an integrated and coordinated approach
 
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to the World Food Program problem.
 
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This council was set up by the General Assembly of the United
 
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Nations.
 
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Secondly, an international fund that Father Hare mentioned
 
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for agricultural development has been established
 
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with something less than the $1.21 billion
 
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requested by the World Food Conference.
 
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A consultative group on world food production and investment
 
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has also been established, as well as
 
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a global early warning information
 
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system on what is happening in various corners of the world.
 
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That's the UN program.
 
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The US Congress has legislated a minimum food aid grant
 
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program of 1,300,000 tons of food yearly.
 
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On the other hand, the administration's preoccupations
 
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with commercial sales is reflected
 
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in the approval of a million ton sale program
 
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recently to Russia that was published
 
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in the beginning of July.
 
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And Russia is hardly an underdeveloped country.
 
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This would seem to indicate that our response to need
 
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is at least self-serving.
 
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Despite worldwide shortages, there
 
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are some people who say that if people, and these people are
 
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always in third world countries, of course, cannot buy food,
 
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There's no point in producing more of it.
 
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According to this opinion, we must first create more jobs,
 
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produce more wealth, distribute this wealth
 
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through increased employment, thus providing
 
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the money necessary for people to purchase more food, which
 
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we would only then produce.
 
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We can only ask what would happen to the poor
 
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while this process was taking place.
 
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And while it's taking place in one part of the world,
 
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what would happen to the poor in all the rest of the world?
 
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This would seem, this opinion would
 
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seem to indicate an obsession with capitalism, profits
 
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and growth, rather than with people, their needs,
 
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and Christian principles.
 
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And it obstructs our treating of our impoverished brothers
 
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of the world as the brothers that they truly are.
 
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Our government also provided in the current aid bill
 
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for expenditures of $1,567 million
 
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for agriculture, rural development, and nutrition
 
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programs in the third world.
 
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On November 9, 1974, during the World Food Conference,
 
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our Holy Father, Pope Paul VI, addressing the conference,
 
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noted that mankind is presently making
 
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the resources of the universe yield their full potential.
 
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But in our own world, the wealth of some
 
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and the grinding poverty of others
 
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seems to paralyze our best efforts.
 
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Human intelligence can protect the health of so many,
 
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so completely, but it's avoiding the task
 
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of ensuring adequate nourishment for the most defenseless
 
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sectors of mankind.
 
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The Holy Father said the right to satisfy man's hunger
 
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must finally be recognized for everyone.
 
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This right is based on the fact that all the goods of the Earth
 
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are destined primarily for universal use
 
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and for the subsistence of all men
 
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before any individual appropriation.
 
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Christ based this judgment of each human being
 
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on the respect for this right.
 
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On this marvelous occasion, that of a Eucharistic Congress,
 
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the hungers of man for God, for food, for freedom,
 
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for justice, for the Spirit, for truth, for understanding,
 
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for peace, and for Jesus are being presented to us
 
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in such a way as to make us all aware of the interconnection,
 
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dependency of each of these hungers on the other.
 
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The hearts of men long for God in his order and wisdom.
 
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Can we, with that common longing,
 
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allow one another to starve for food,
 
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suffer from malnutrition, endure physical weakness
 
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because we consume too little food?
 
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Do we belong to one body of Christ
 
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and deny to any of our fellow men
 
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the right to freedom, to mutual understanding,
 
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and reconciliation that human hearts long for,
 
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strive after, and proclaim as mans do?
 
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Shall we who are united in supporting every man's right
 
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to the satisfying of these hungers
 
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legitimately deny to our fellow men united in this aspiration
 
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the right to share in the fruits of the earth
 
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that are necessary to maintain the life which
 
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God has put in their bodies.
 
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We know the theological and spiritual reasons
 
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why God has perpetuated his presence among us
 
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under the species of bread and wine.
 
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But the universality of access to this spiritual food
 
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and to the other needed forms of physical sustenance
 
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has its parallel in the universality of access
 
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of man to God.
 
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From this point of view also, there
 
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must be no denial of the means to satisfy the hunger
 
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of any man anywhere on Earth.
 
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The bread of life is a spiritual food indeed,
 
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but there is also the material bread of life
 
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that has a quasi-sacramental role of satisfying
 
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man's physical hunger.
 
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As life is sacred, so the bread that sustains life
 
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has a sacred purpose.
 
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In this sense, it may not be denied to anyone
 
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on Earth at any age of the world,
 
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neither in the amount needed nor in the quality that
 
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will support life.
 
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The role of the producer of food, its distributor
 
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and handler in any way consequently
 
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becomes a sacred trust, an act of sharing in the work of God,
 
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a way of sustaining life which God has created,
 
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a purposeful and meaningful activity that
 
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approaches a sacred role.
 
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In the face of such considerations,
 
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can we be only humanitarian in our efforts
 
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to assuage the hunger for food?
 
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Must we not be godlike in trying to provide
 
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for the needs of all men everywhere
 
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with the great goods of his creation.
 
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Systems are undoubtedly required to govern our lives
 
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as men in this complicated era.
 
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But when a system, as sometimes happens,
 
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produces at the same time enormous benefits
 
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and disastrous limitations on our efforts
 
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to assuage human hunger, that system should be modified.
 
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Increased agricultural production
 
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has permitted many countries in the world
 
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to help their neighbors with food in ways
 
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that earlier eras of the world hardly dreamed of.
 
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But when this great process is affected
 
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by other considerations, profits from commercial sales,
 
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costs of conservation, transportation and distribution
 
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to famished areas of the world, the self-protective instinct
 
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to limit production in order to maintain prices and profits,
 
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and even the exaltation of the principle of self-interest
 
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first, then the system must be modified
 
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since the true Christian principle is
 
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that of our neighbor's interest first.
 
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The world has changed considerably
 
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since the man who was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho
 
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fell among thieves.
 
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But the act of the good Samaritan on that occasion
 
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has not ceased to be a basic principle of conduct
 
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for all right-thinking men.
 
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We do unto others as you would have others do unto you
 
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as the universally accepted golden rule.
 
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In the face of these principles, how is it possible for us
 
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to even mention without a shudder of horror
 
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such things as triage, the lifeboat ethic,
 
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or other such neighbor-sacrificing systems?
 
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Is our own welfare so precious that it
 
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has to be purchased at the cost of our spiritual values
 
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and at the price of the lives of the weakest
 
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members of the human community?
 
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Rather, should not the physical good of all of us
 
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be preserved by using wisdom, scientific knowledge,
 
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tremendous technical resources, and a spirit
 
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of conscious daring and striving.
 
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This is how the benefits of the fruits of the earth
 
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can be brought to all of our fellow men
 
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and first and foremost to the weakest among them.
 
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What we've said thus far can be summed up in the conclusion
 
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that the Christian morality excludes
 
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our consideration of any solutions to the world food
 
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problem that conflict with the sermon on the mount that
 
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sacrifices any members of the human family
 
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for the good of others, or that fails
 
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to regard the sufferings of one as a violation
 
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of the good of all.
 
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But this being the case, we must ask ourselves
 
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whether or not it's possible for us to feed the world,
 
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prevent hunger and malnutrition, produce adequately
 
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for the present and for the future.
 
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And that's the challenge, really.
 
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The World Bank, whose studies, experience, and planning
 
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is at least as good as any existing today,
 
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says that we can.
 
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First of all, the urgency of expanding food supplies
 
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and the objectives of rural development
 
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are practically the same thing and depend one upon the other.
 
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The World Bank examined the possibility
 
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of increasing the annual rate of growth of output
 
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by small farmers by 5% by 1985.
 
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Taking into account all of the factors that
 
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could influence such an objective,
 
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both favorably and unfavorably, the experience
 
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of underdeveloped countries and of the World Bank
 
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itself in this regard, the technological, organizational,
 
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procedural, and manpower difficulties
 
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limiting effective use of additional investment,
 
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and using two different methods for the study,
 
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the bank concluded that on the basis of the first method
 
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that a total cumulative capital cost of $70,000 million
 
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must be invested to achieve the annual growth rate mentioned
 
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in the production of small farmers in the third world.
 
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This is the end of side one.
 
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To hear side two, turn the cassette over now.
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To maintain that growth beyond 1985,
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an additional annual investment or expenditure
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of approximately $20,000 million would still be needed yearly.
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Using a second method to examine the same objective,
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the overall cost of the best of several implementation schedules
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to assist the rural poor and small farmers in the same way that we mentioned,
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and they will number over 700 million people by the end of the 1970s,
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could cost as much as $100,000 million.
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The bank goes on to say, on some counts,
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even the higher estimate of $100,000 million investment
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would seem remarkably modest to provide the impetus
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for sustaining increases in food productivity and real income for the rural poor.
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Estimates of income, savings, and investment at present,
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the present investment,
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in developing countries including the petroleum and mineral exporters
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that are part of the third world,
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indicate that total investments in developing countries in 1974
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were approximately $170,000 million,
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allowing for phasing over a 10-year period $10,000 million per year
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would have to be directed out of the total sum available
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and already being used for that purpose for rural development
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and this would account for only 6% of the total being invested at the present time.
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For the low-income developing countries,
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which means excluding the oil and mineral producers,
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the picture is different,
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but it still is within the realm of reasonable possibilities according to the bank.
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The bank considers the investments required
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neither too high nor unreasonable nor otherwise unacceptable.
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Quite the contrary.
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Furthermore, since food shortages affect all countries,
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including the petroleum and mineral exporters,
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along with the other developing countries,
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the consideration based on all the countries in the third world taken together
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is clearly the most valid one.
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It is also clear that such an investment
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that will provide an annual 5% growth rate in the production of small farmers
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answers the question, can we prevent hunger?
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As the bank states, rural areas have labor, land,
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and at least some capital, which if mobilized,
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will reduce poverty and improve the quality of life.
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The redirection to rural development of a small percentage
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of present investments in underdeveloped countries
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will improve productivity, increase employment,
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and hence provide higher income
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as well as minimum acceptable levels of food, shelter, education, and health,
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expansion of communications, and the improvement of housing.
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Since we're talking about what might well be a last chance effort
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to rescue from absolute poverty just less than 700 million poor
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in the developing world,
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and a poor person by this definition has less than $50 a year to live on,
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this is indeed a cheap price to pay
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and one which humanity can well afford.
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In addition, it has the advantage of providing for the production of food
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to meet the shortages where they exist
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rather than in the traditional food exporting countries of North America
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and to a lesser extent of Europe.
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And if one's interest extends also to another level,
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it meets the demands of economic capitalism
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for growth and profit at the local level.
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What we are talking about, therefore, can be done
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not only in the estimation of agencies such as our own
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that have seen many areas of the third world raised to self-sufficiency,
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but also in the carefully researched opinion
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of such a prestigious institution as the World Bank
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that has brought to bear on this problem
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all the available wisdom, science, and technology it could marshal.
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If some of us, therefore, turn to immoral solutions
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simply out of desperation,
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it must be stated that there is little justification
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for the tactics of despair.
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Bishop Rouse recently told the House Subcommittee on International Resources,
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Food and Energy,
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the hungry have a right to live,
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and we, therefore, have no other morally acceptable choice
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than to open wide our hands to our brothers.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much, Monsignor.
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I will ask Sister now if she will make her responses, comments, and critique.
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Cardinal Wright and friends, sisters and brothers,
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I have three points to make, and I think I can make them very briefly
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so that we have a chance to share among ourselves,
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because by this time I'm sure we have many ideas.
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Father Hare described the state of the question in the first part of his talk.
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In the second, he analyzed the issue and gave us four models,
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and then dealt more briefly with Christian resources
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in the face of world hunger, doctrinal, moral, and organizational.
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And it's to that third part that I would like to address my remarks,
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one in each of those categories.
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Other speakers have refreshed our memories
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and extended our understanding of what we believe
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about the link between Eucharist and hunger.
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I would like to suggest that the hunger issue is bringing into focus
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that one of the things that we believe is that as human beings,
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and certainly as Christians, we all have a responsibility to be educators
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in the sense that we have to nourish one another
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in an understanding, a continuing understanding of this crucial issue
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which will be ours and a central human issue,
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not an isolated one, for the rest of our lives.
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And so I think that we have to take very seriously
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and dedicate ourselves to the truth that each of us,
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as we go from the Eucharist to Congress,
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must take some responsibility for extending an understanding
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of the hunger issue and getting it located structurally
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into our educational system, whether that's elementary, high school, college,
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or adult education in the parish, or some other non-formal way of education.
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In doing that, I then lead into the next point I want to make
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about moral resources.
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I think it's terribly important for us to spare no effort
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to analyze the hunger issue as a problem to be solved,
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but to continually address it also as a mystery to be lived.
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And I don't mean just the sacramental Eucharist,
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but I mean the hunger mystery.
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That somehow our understanding of the Eucharist
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will depend on our rediscovering the natural sacramentality of food.
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That in this issue we are really dealing with a life and death issue.
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We share life with one another when we share food.
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And it's only, I think, by integrating the hunger issue
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as a problem to be solved, demanding the best in analysis,
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and a mystery to be lived, that we are going to go a step beyond
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the step that we seem to be, or the place we seem to be now,
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and we recognize it as a justice issue,
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which is a great step forward from seeing it only as a personal,
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almsgiving kind of an issue,
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to a deeper integration of the relationship between love and justice.
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love demands justice, and justice finds its inner fullness only in love.
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that our mistake in the past for historical, theological,
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or sociological reasons, I don't know why,
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was that in our old idea of charity or almsgiving,
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we seemed to think that we could make a unilateral private decision.
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for Catholic relief services and then think it was all over.
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But in deciding about justice, the norm for the decision is out there.
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It's in the real need of a real brother and a real sister we recognize
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because we recognize a God whom we call Father.
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So I think in dealing with the hunger issue educationally
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as a problem to be solved and a mystery to be lived,
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we need to continue to look for improved models.
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And while spaceships are a great example of that,
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and while spaceship has some distinct advantages over the family table,
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it's a very kind of a western technological task-oriented model.
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We also have to continually search for myths and symbols
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and to cultivate their creative arts as much as possible
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to find insights on how to stay with this issue,
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which is so dear to us because we know that God whom we know in Jesus
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took real bread and real wine and really identified with it.
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And that's why I think it's a beautiful thing and something that we'll remember
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as a high point of our Eucharistic Congress,
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that there's so much of a celebration of the arts surrounding this Congress,
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and maybe it's only going to be in post-Eucharistic Congress reflection
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we'll see what a very, very significant dimension of a Congress that is.
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The third point and final one I'd like to make is about organizational resources.
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Our United States Bishop Conference produced in November 1974
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a pastoral plan on the world food crisis,
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which in my view is one of the most magnificent pastoral theological documents
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that's come out of the American church.
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Now our tendency is to say, well, that was the 1974 plan,
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in 1975 we did something on something else.
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I think that we need to take that pastoral plan,
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copies are available from the USCC and also from Catholic Relief Services,
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and to continue to see that as a plan that needs continual implementation
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because it deals with those three levels that we have to continually work on
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that Bishop Rausch spoke so beautifully about this morning.
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We have there seven targeted issues in which we must continually work on
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and enter into the public policy debate.
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It deals with the need for continuing education, particularly adult education.
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If we do it right ourselves, those of us in this room,
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and our fellow Christians around the country,
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our children will catch it from us, but it won't work the other way around.
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And it deals with the whole lifestyle and pastoral liturgical dimension.
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And it's very important, it seems to me,
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that we don't let that pastoral plan on the world food crisis
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become an historical document, but that it really become a blueprint for action.
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And then finally, if we're going to act on that,
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it reminds us that we have to act with all our brothers and sisters in this country,
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particularly those of us who do share a living faith in Jesus Christ.
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to put arms and legs on that public policy part of the pastoral plan of action.
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And here, of course, I speak of bread for the world.
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I'm not at all embarrassed to be advocating it very strongly.
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Those are the three points that I would like to make in just perhaps extending a little further,
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I hope anyway, what Father Hare was saying,
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and he spent most of his time in that excellent analysis.
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And as we walk from this room, we have to say,
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now that we've analyzed the issue, what do we do to work with it?
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you, Sister.
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In the name of the organization,
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I apologize for the trouble you have with the technique and the technicians,
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but there's a moral.
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It's a very important one.
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Use the technicians when they work, but don't count on them.
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Always have human resources and resources of goodwill to put the thing through
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because you never know when the damn machine is going to squeal or break down.
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Are there any of the resource men who would like to make an observation or an intervention?
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I have the uncomfortable feeling that they have been rejected.
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Thank you.
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I promise to be very brief.
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I'm reacting mainly to Father Hare's extraordinarily lucid and acute presentation,
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and he's given us so much it may seem greedy to ask for even more.
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But if I were to ask for something more from him,
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I should like to know, pursuing his interest in exploring the population dimension of this problem,
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whether or not we need additional models to guide people in countries like the United States
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where you postulate different possible responses from that part of the world
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where population right now is said to be growing at the rate of about 2.5% a year.
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For instance, suppose it continues to grow at 2.5.
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What response does that call for?
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Should it grow at a more rapid rate?
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Would that in any way alter our obligations or posture?
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I'm not expecting impromptu answers to this.
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I suggest I think these are things also that at some time and some place have to be explored,
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however uncomfortable may be the implications to us.
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Father Hare, do you wish to comment?
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I would simply agree that that is part of the problem.
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In other places I've tried to respond within the framework of what the framework of Catholic teaching is
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and where I thought questions ought to be asked of the teaching.
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And I feel myself that that middle position that argues that there is a population problem,
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that governments have a right to deal with it, as Pope Paul said in Progressio Populorum,
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but that the population question has to be seen within the framework of the larger development question.
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I think it's someplace in there that the answer is.
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Now, the specifics of what the limits of government intervention are, what's legitimate and not,
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the specifics raised by the India situation, for example, are on the table.
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And I think, quite frankly, the Catholic Church can't talk about the food problem without talking about the other issue.
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I'm not trying to dictate what the position ought to be,
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but you just can't stay in the public forum if you say there's no problem on the other.
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So I'm just arguing for a fabric that deals with both sides of the problem.
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The U.S. side of the problem tends to take the population variable and push it as the primary question very often in our aid programs,
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in some of our voluntary organizations.
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I think there needs to be resistance to that in this country, but I don't argue that we ought to argue there's no problem by any means.
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I merely would like to ask again, Father Herr, where in his picture, I think he has not neglected to consider what I'm going to question,
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but I recognize the humanity in sharing bread, but there seems to me also to be a balance.
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I feel that, maybe it's my legal background, that with every right there's a correlative duty.
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Is there not some balance whereby we ought to request some self-help?
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In the old oriental proverb you all know, you're all familiar with,
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if you give a man a fish you feed him for a meal.
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If you teach him how to fish you feed him for life.
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Also, many philosophers have said that the highest form of charity is to help a man help himself.
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Where, Father, does this fit into the picture?
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I'll make two comments on the observation, which I accept is a valid observation.
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The first comment I'd make is that the question of self-help is one of the issues on the agenda.
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Internal reform in the developing countries is part of the problem on agricultural development.
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It is part of the problem in the larger economic picture.
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Second problem is much more tricky.
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I would argue that what's on the table in very general terms in the international debate today,
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under the label of the new international economic order,
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are some of the preconditions that the developing countries feel are necessary for self-help.
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They are not talking about aid, if you'll look carefully.
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They're talking about changing the trading structures.
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what kind of control they have over the corporations that move in and out of their countries.
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And that's a self-help problem.
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And that problem gets very quickly to the problem of the nature of political power in the international system.
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What power they have in the international decision-making institutions.
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I think we have to be careful in the U.S. that we don't try and have it both ways.
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We have a strong tradition of self-help among ourselves, and that's good.
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And it's good for other people, too.
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But when the self-help issues come on the table, in terms of this debate of the NIEO,
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I wouldn't say that the U.S. response has been magnanimous, open-ended, and quick.
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I'd say that we have been regarded as the primary hedging institution in the international community.
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So I think if we're going to talk about self-help, we need to talk about, in specific terms,
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about what self-help is going to mean.
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Self-help means, as it did for the unions in this country when they went up against management,
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it means changing the structure of power.
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It means regulating parts of the economic system that we generally don't like regulated.
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I think that at least that's going to be part of the self-help project.
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after we've asked people to take those steps.
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Fortunately, I am forbidden by the ground rules from making a speech.
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But I'm tempted to make one.
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I'd like to provide a speech which might not send a consultant out optimistic,
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but which would sketch in a little bit more than the legal opinion,
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as reflected, for example, by some recent decisions of the highest supreme body in our land,
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which was entirely on the side of population control
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and not a bit on the side of doing anything about anything else.
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When I was the Bishop of Pittsburgh, I am allowed to tell a story.
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I used to go down for a month every year
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and work with the priests and sisters and laity from Pittsburgh
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in a port city in Peru, which desperately needed optimism.
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One day there arrived the representatives of the United States Aid to Latin America.
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I can remember them now. They had acne all over their faces.
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And they offered the town of Chimbote some lousy powdered milk.
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But the condition of their getting the lousy powdered milk
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was that they had to take a bag of contraceptives.
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I had already learned from university people in Lima
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the manner in which if Westinghouse would only give us the means
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to desalinise the Pacific,
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we could produce on that lunar landscape between Lima and Chimbote
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enough food to sustain 20 times the population for 500 years.
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I had also learned that the Humboldt stream
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is so filled with protein that you can walk on it.
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So the great question arose, do we take the lousy powdered milk?
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Well, they desperately needed it.
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They were selling American canned fruit in the Lima stores.
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When in their own jungle at the headwaters of the Amazon,
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the fruit was dying on the vine
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because the American aid program did not include the means yet to it.
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or willingness to pass up our canned fruit profits in the stores of Lima.
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So there was a discussion, will we take the lousy powdered milk?
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and I was 100% on the side of the Pope.
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I said, take both bags and I'll see you later.
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They took the lousy powdered milk and they took the bag of contraceptives
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and then there was a discussion of what we would do with the bag of contraceptives
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and I suggested to throw it in the harbour.
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It was a gift.
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You can do with a gift as you choose.
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But one of the descendants of the Incas with more brains than I had said,
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what in the name of God will it do to the fish?
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That would complicate the problem.
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So we burned it.
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And I hope they burn it till there's nothing less to burn
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because there cannot possibly be too many good people in a land that was created
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to hold 50 million and only has 8 million.
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That's the cold fact.
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Moreover, I add one further exceedingly brief note.
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At the end of the 15th century,
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there was a mood throughout Europe that the world was so overpopulated.
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People were so pushed in on one another that there could be nothing but war.
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And then a little Italian by the name of Christopher Columbus set out
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from Lisbon and opened up a whole new world.
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The last talk that Pius XII gave I heard.
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He was a dying man.
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And he looked at the crowd of people there,
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all of them anxious, worried, depressed, pessimistic,
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and he said, what is the matter with you?
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You are standing on the shores of space.
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You have a whole universe to exploit.
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And only the other day I saw a science fiction writer say,
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and they're only 50 years ahead of the rest of us,
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we have a universe to colonize.
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Cut the kidding.
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Cut the kidding.
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Old Joe Kennedy said there couldn't be too many Kennedys.
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Well, I don't think there can be too many people.
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And I think the government should be forced to find the means to support the people there.
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But in any case, the day they make a ruling
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or a bit of legislation that forbids the freedom of people to follow their own conscience
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and their own preferences in this matter, that day they should be thrown out.

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Arthur Simon, “Hunger Symposium: Panel B Hunger and people's Conscience - Part Responses,” Catholic Historical Research Center Digital Collections, accessed February 17, 2026, https://omeka.pahrc.net/items/show/9033.